I hope Pearl stays, even if just an aide/attendant. I really like her character. Not sure why, but we just… rubs me the right way. Erm… that sounded… *cough*. Anyways, thanks for the chapter!
It’s more like she went from hating men to liking men.
If a person can go from thinking they’re straight to discovering they’re actually gay/bi, then the opposite is possible too.
I don’t really understand the problem. In the end she still wanted to marry Xiao Wu, so it’s not like she was scared straight. More like scared bi, if anything. It’s well possible for some really attractive person to challenge the boundaries of someone’s sexual preferences.
Plus, to quote Fatty, Tang San and the others all have ‘whore faces’. 8D
Thanks for the chappy! I really hope that they don’t encounter the sharks, at most maybe see them, Tang San can kill them later for spirit rings 😛 right now I just want them to get to the island
Oh, come ON.
Tang San is so amazing, powerful and handsome. Oh how ingenious and strong he is. He’s so cool that he turned a LESBIAN bisexual for him.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a social justice-type person, and I quite like the story as well as Tang San. But often it really does feel like the author is just masturbating to himself over how brilliant Tang San is.
I feel you… I just wanted to complain that now even a LESBIAN woman fell for Tang San. As if sexual orientation were just a question of how attractive the other person is… And as if EVERY SINGLE strong woman in existence will naturally fall for the first man who defeats her. Because, you know, every woman craves having a partner who is stronger as her. And so, regardless of her sexual orientation she will definitely fall for the very first man who happens to be stronger than her. He has to be attractive of course. But aren’t all main characters attractive? Because, you know, where would we get to, if a main character was less than perfect.
Sorry, I’m feeling slightly pissed because of this. Details like this are starting to seriously ruin the story for me. I understand that Purple Pearl respects Tang San. And it’s fine if she likes him. But ‘like’ isn’t equivalent to ‘love’. You can respect an like somebody without falling in love with them. Especially, if they don’t fit your sexual orientation.
And what is it with ‘she doesn’t dislike men any more’? Did she coose to become lesbian because she dislikes men? Then she is surrounded by a whole lot of men, considering she dislikes them so much. Never mind the fact the sexual orientation isn’t a choice.
So Tang San ‘cured’ Purple Pearl of her homosexuality. What a miracle.
Sorry, for the long rant, but I am pretty pissed.
But I am also really grateful to the translators who are putting so much work into this story. Thanks a lot.
Inherent misogyny is prevalent in pretty much all xianxia. Not in the sense that women are disliked, but in the sense that they are demeaned – treated as objects, or mere trophies to be gained.
Doulou Dalu is actually one of the most progressive xianxia in regards to that (and several other areas). It does attempt to give some form of characterisation to several female characters, and it even introduces… a lesbian! Though of course, not for long. I don’t think gay people exist in the xianxia universe. By nature, the writing is very traditionalist and it displays very conservative values e.g. women are attracted to powerful men.
Adding to that. The base idea of xianxia is, sadly, that the main character is utter perfection. The strongest, most intelligent and most attractive person in the universe. So by the laInherent misogyny is prevalent in pretty much all xianxia. Not in the sense that women are disliked, but in the sense that they are demeaned – treated as objects, or mere trophies to be gained.
This is actually one of the most progressive xianxia in regards to that. It does attempt to give some form of characterisation to several female characters, and it even introduces… a lesbian! Though of course, not for long.
The very idea of xianxia is, sadly, that the main character is utter perfection. The strongest, most intelligent and most attractive person in the universe. So it follows that all women are attracted to him, and all men either bow down to his power or feel threatened by it.
This is all part of the package that is xianxia fiction.
Inherent misogyny is prevalent in pretty much all xianxia. Not in the sense that women are disliked, but in the sense that they are demeaned – treated as objects, or mere trophies to be gained.
Doulou Dalu is actually one of the most progressive xianxia in regards to that (and several other areas). It does attempt to give some form of characterisation to several female characters, and it even introduces… a lesbian! Though of course, not for long. I don’t think gay people exist in the xianxia universe. By nature, the writing is very traditionalist and it displays very conservative values e.g. women are attracted to powerful men.
The core idea of xianxia is, sadly, that the main character is utter perfection (he walks the paths to becoming an immortal). The strongest, most intelligent and most attractive person in the universe. So it follows that all women are attracted to him, and all men either bow down to his power or feel threatened by it.
This is all part of the package that is xianxia fiction.
Which is probably one of the reasons, or even the main reason, why this is the only Xianxia Novel I ever seriously attempted to read. I gave every other I tried after a few chapters. And at the moment I am seriously considering dropping this novel as well.
And yes, I can see that the women are treated ‘well’ by the standards of the genre. But I seriously dislike misogyny and objectification of women.
I guess what I am trying to say is that while I understand that this inherent misogyny is inherent in the genre and culture this novel stems from, it still bothers me. A lot. And it ist spoiling the fun this series used to be.
Oh, I don’t blame you for being bothered at all. Personally, I treat most xianxia (and web novels in general) as cheap enjoyment – weak character development, a fountain of cliches and ‘fortunate’ events. Lots of powerups and fighting. A fun read to take a break from studying.
Personally, I’m sticking with this. The battles are great, the element of teamwork adds to them immensely. The characters are likeable enough and I would like to see their story through to the end, tying up all the loose ends. It’s an enjoyable read. Perhaps not a finely written piece of literature, but I don’t believe that any web novels are.
To be honest, I believe that misogynistic themes are actually pretty weak in Doulou Dalu. This chapter aside, I don’t believe that they’ll reappear that prominently.
Out of curiosity, do you read anything else online?
The fact that I like most of the characters and would like to see their story through to the end is part of the reason why I am this pissed. And yes, I completely agree with you on the ‘enjoyable read but not great literature’ part.
And it is true that the misogyny is comparably weak (which is part of the reason I haven’t given up on this novel yet).
As for your question: I read some manga, but I haven’t found many that I thoroughly enjoy. As for light novels, I really like Yu Wo’s novels, but they are in an entirely different genre. As far as Wuxia and Xianxia goes, this is the only novel I have ever seriously attempted to read.
Oh man, I totally feel you. Reading a bad novel is one thing. Reading a good novel, which slowly turns into a bad novel, is another thing entirely – and it is so much worse. That sense of disappointment at something which you genuinely enjoyed having the life sucked out of it is depressing. (Not that I’m saying DD has become bad, not at all.)
Ah, right. I didn’t recognise the name at first, but turns out I have read some of Yu Wo’s work. I read Legend of the Sun Knight for quite a while, but dropped it after a certain incident with the MC’s eyes. Reading from there on was too depressing for me, so I sadly gave up on it. I think KnM was decent as well, and I’ve heard that 1/2 Prince is good.
Well, it was pleasant chatting with you Anon – see you :^)
I completely agree. It is so sad what some people do to their stories or characters. It is the same with seeing a character with a lot of potential slowly being destroyed by bad character developement.
I think you should give Legend of the Sun Knight another try. I know which incident you are referring to (I read the entire series) and although it does get darker overall after this incident, it still remains a good read and retains much of its humour. I liked 1/2 Prince as well and it is less dark than Legend of the Sun Knight (but still, LSK remains my favourite)
Yeah Purple Pearl just pissed me off. Sexism and homophobia in one sexy-and-will-inevitably-be-turned-straight-by-the-MC-because-he-automatically-causes-every-woman-in-a-thirty-mile-radius-to-gush-a-waterfall-out-of-their-nethers-because-fuck-you-he’s-the-protagonist package. Honestly, I love the characters in this light novel, but I’m seriously pissed at the author right now.
On a happier note, I’d recommend I Shall Seal The Heavens as a good read for you because it has almost none of that. Sure a few women fall for the MC, but it’s nowhere near as bad as in most Xianxia. Also, the women who are introduced as badasses remain badasses, and the MC’s sex drive is so low I’m convinced he’s a genuine asexual. Besides, there is an implied lesbian couple several hundred chapters in, as well as a pair of “brothers” who are also implied to be in a relationship. Granted, they’re minor villains, and they don’t last as long as the lesbians, but still.
Yup, having lesbians and homos automatically makes a LN great.
Although I disagree with all the ‘progressive’ bullshit, I still second the recommendation for I Shall Seal the Heavens though, it is the only LN worth reading.
Gays will always be seen as weak, as well as most woman. it is psychology, not sexism or homophobia. If an MC is gay, it is harder to make him seem stronger when not in a fight, but still isn’t that hard. Woman were originally programmed to stay by the baby, while the men go out and hunt, and it is hardwired men’s brains to see woman as weaker
It’s true that LGBT characters don’t automatically make a story good, but it does feel nice for gay people to have representation. How would you like it if every single story out there had straight people depicted only as comic relief or as freaks? Props for knowing and liking ISSTH though. I love the romance between Meng Hao and Xu Qing, and the action and worldbuilding are fucking badass. The only fault is it starts off a bit slow.
i think it wus her way of sayin she submits 2 him doubt theyd ever seen someone like tht b4
in xianxia its th law oif the jungle remember the strong usin the weak
Sexual orientation is a choice. The homosexual movement just tries to bury this up. There are many instances of homosexuals who have repented. Their stories are buried and many times ignored.
Sure it is a choice. Because people chose to be homosexuals during times where this sexual orientation was punished with the death penalty. Apperently they thought it funny to risk death just for what exactly? If you can explain to me why someone risk death to choose a sexual orientation then I am willing to accept your argument.
Until then I stick to: sexual orientation is not a choice.
(Although people with bisexual orientation can of course choose whether to be with a man or a woman. But not everybody is bysexual)
Yeah, but just like a straight person who discovers that, deep down, they’re bisexual, a person who thinks they’re bisexual or lesbian/gay, but deep down isn’t, can also come around to becoming straight if something happens to cause that change in their minds.
Captain Pearl just discovered that, maybe, she doesn’t hate men anymore.
It never said anything about her not liking women too.
I see nothing wrong with her changing her mind when someone does something to move her heart powerfully enough.
That’s only one interpretation, though.
What we think is ‘obvious’ is, in fact, completely open to interpretation until the author says differently directly.
And from where I’m sitting, she wasn’t “cured”. She was “awakened to a side she didn’t know was in her.”
the definition of “cured” is “relieve (a person or animal) of the symptoms of a disease or condition”.
and the definition of homosexuality is “the condition of experiencing physical, emotional and sexual attraction to members of one’s own gender”. Therefore Purple Pearl was in fact cured of homosexuality.
True, it is possible to believe you are homosexual (or heterosexual), while you are in fact bisexual, simply because you have, so far, only been attracted to people from one gender (never found ‘the right person’ from the other gender, so to speak).
But I agree with matt3134 that in this context it definitely felt like he ‘cured’ her from her homosexuality. Especially considering that her sexual orientation was called ‘skewed’ and ‘strange’ before.
And: hating men is not equivalent to being lesbian. You can have absolutely no problem with men and still be lesbian. And you can hate men (for whatever reason) and still be heterosexual. Although in that case you will probably end up being asexual. But it is not as if you can ‘choose’ to be homosexual because of a dislike for the other gender.
And this is probably what bothers me the most. Respecting and liking Tang San? I have absolutely no problem with that. But like equals not love.
(And by the way: if she hated men that much, why the hell was her crew pretty much exclusively male from what we have seen so far?)
So many people chose to commit adultery, when such an act was punished with the death penalty. So many people stole money and corrupt their official position, when they know that the death penalty awaits if they get caught. But no one will make the argument that someone is born an adulterer/adulteress, or born a thief.
The point is, people will disregard consequences when their action is perceived to bring them pleasure or advantage.
Yes, homosexual people derive “pleasure” from their homosexual acts. And for that, some will brave even death penalties. But none of this argue that someone is born with this urge, or that it is set in stone. It is a learned behavior, molded by situations, inputs, sometimes abuses. And some of them, after years of homosexuality, renounce this lifestyle afterwards as sinful. This is why homosexuality is not equal to skin-color, despite the vigorous attempt by the homosexual-lobby to make the connection and thus ride the “racism”/”bigotry” train. One cannot change one’s skin color, but one can change one’s sexual preference, which is amply documented
But for thievery as well as adultery there are ‘objective’ (so to speak) reasons. People steal things they cannot afford (or money in order to afford those things). They steal because they have something to gain from it. People commit adultery because they cannot find pleasure in their relationship or because they are attracted to someone outside this relationship. And while neither behaviour ist socially accepted, it is based upon socially accepted goals or desires, which are considered understandable by most people.
If homosexuality were learned, the question would be: where do I learn it in a society that claims it doesn’t exist? How come, people who have never been exposed to homosexuality still turn out to be homosexual if this desire is socially learned?
Also, there are many homosexuals who severly agonise over their desire or preference, which they are told is unnatural and still it remains. How do you explain this, if it is supposed to be a conscious decision?
As for the part about this desire being set in stone: Many people are bisexual (according to studies). Some are drawn more to the opposite gender, some to the same and some don’t have any preference. Many might never notice because they choose to ignore any attraction they might feel that doesn’t fit the picture they have of themselves (or the picture society paints as ‘normal’). Of course those people can choose to reject their attraction to one gender and also ‘switch’ their orientation. But that is because they have a different orientation to start with.
And while there are people who are disgusted by the very idea of sharing a bed with a person of the same sex, there are also people who are disgusted by the idea of sharing a bed with a person of the opposite sex.
And maybe it is true that one isn’t born with a sexual preference. But maybe it is. As far as I know, there is no scientific prove as to either of those theories (that hasn’t already been proven wrong at some point). As with most issues concerning human developement, gender issues etc, you can find studies, experiments and whatever you like that prove or undermine each theory you might support or oppose.
Science has proven time and time again that homosexuality is a chemical imbalance in the person’s brain which is why, once that chemical imbalance is corrected either by the natural process of the body or by the use of medications their homosexuality tendencies cease to exist. However, the LGBT community continues to cover up these studies with their bigotry! This said, be who you think you are, I don’t care either way, but science is fact. Also, everyone is whining and complaining about a subject which is still punished by death in most countries in this world. These countries, and their people don’t give two shits about your opinion, and your whining and complaining will never change that.
I have read both of the articles you suggested. As for the first one, I would like to quote a significant sentence: “But one of the co-authors, neuroscientist Zhou-Feng Chen of Washington University, cautioned against forming hasty conclusions about the potential influence of this neurotransmitter on human sexual orientation.” The entire study is about mice. Not humans.
As for your second article, I would like to read the study it refers to. But, as far as I know, scientists have no idea what about 80% of our genes do. So unless this study has checked every single human gene and has proven that none of them can have anything to do with sexual orientation, I doubt that it proves anything.
As for ‘Science is Fact’: Science has been wrong many times. Pretty much every big discovery overturnes something that has been considered ‘fact’ up until this discovery.
And maybe the people you are refering to are not interested in my opinion. But then they probably are not interested in you opinion either. But if nobody ever tries to change anything, nothing will change. So the argument ‘nothing will ever change that’ is true insofar as it keeps people from trying and thereby proves itself.
Also, you might want to consider your usage of language. Insulting someone who doesn’t share your opinion won’t win you the argument. Actually, it will probably hurt you cause since it evokes the impression that your arguments lack backing and you therefore have to resort to insults to support your cause.
I rolled my eyes at this one, too. Honestly, the whole Purple Pearl character just seemed… like, it’s okay if she rapes the currently mentally retarded Xiao Wu because she’s a girl, how much harm can she do, when Xiao Wu has been Tang San’s berserk button for forever? Then even though she’s the leader of a bunch of pirates, Tang San doesn’t get annoyed she tries to attack him when up until now his entire philosophy is ‘pull out the grass by the roots’ and he even killed almost an entire crew of one of the pirate groups that served under her? Not only that, he just takes her as a servant(/student?)? And then she falls in love with him?
I can understand the reasoning behind Tang San not killing her. For one, he was grateful that she and her people saved his comrades. Also, she displayed no intention of killing him (even stating that he was free to go, provided he would be a bit humiliated first), even after he attacked and humiliated her. So basically, forcing her to accept him as superior was the mor logical route to take.
But about the other points, I totally agree with you. Apparently, as far as the author is concerend, a woman being touched by a man is horrible (as seen when Tang San scolds Xiao Wu for her fighting style. Although everything between unwanted sexual touching and rape is just wrong, apparently in this universe it is also bad if a woman employs a fighting style that requires a woman to touch a man), while it is absolutely no problem if another women harasses her or goes even further… So yeah, I don’t get it either, why the pure fact that purple pearl is a woman is enough to squench Tang San’s fury.
And I already said everything I have to say about Purple Pearl falling in love with Tang San.
I am not very well versed with this xiaxia universe so can’t comment on the misogyny. I think Tang San left her alive and didn’t kill her despite being angry was primarily because she is a woman. So far in this series, he has not gone against a woman with killing intent. In the previous chapter, he slowed down while attacking her and then did’t kill because of fatty and his disciple asking him to stop. But he needed her “resources”, so the next logical option was to capture her with such ferocity that she wouldn’t dare go against him. Makes logical sense to me.
So I was thinking, Xiao Wu’s spirit is a rabbit, right? And she herself, used to be a rabbit, right? And spirits are generally hereditary inheritance, right? So… wouldn’t that mean that essentially, anyone with a beast spirit is a descendant of a hundred thousand year spirit beast that decided to take human form, and tool spirits are from human bloodlines?
You DEFINITELY were thinking greedxviii… I think you’re onto something there.
Or MAYBE an extremely long time ago humans were experimenting with science/magic and a catastrophe happened that turned certain people into spirit beasts? So after certain conditions are met they have the ability to turn back? Or maybe with the multiple universe thing, certain people get reincarnated as spirit beasts…hmmm
“Ji Xiang looked at Tang San then the others, in his heart he secretly thought, Master your spirit ranks are not just slightly higher but rather horrifyingly high.” ➡ make me laugh 😄(funny)🙌
Omg I’m rereading and am at chapter 88 now, it’s not felt so far away to me before but it really has been so long already and we’re seemingly touching the finish line, uuuu I’m sad it’s this close to ending already. I’m really grateful for your translations as well, I guess I’ll read DD2 after this one and then who knows from there. When that time comes I hope to support you guys and read more of yours translations if you continue, so thanks again and see I wish you well!!!
i think a lot of people are loosing interest in there translations. we wait 2 weeks for 2 chapters to release for DD then come to notice they release Teasers of other LNs? is like they’re spending more time translating LNs that they want to, besides doing DD…
On the front of the Abyssal Dragon Ship, there is a crystal orb. When the ship is above water, the orb is white. When it submerged, it become blue. The longer it stays submerged, the blue will slowly turn red. When the orb turns fully red, it meant that the ship internal compartment is running out of oxygen, and it had to go up above the surface again
Breathing in the salty sea air, Ning RongRong lamented, “Not withstanding ten thousand gold spirit coins, even if it’s one hundred thousand gold spirit coins, it’s still worth it. Other then not having any attack capabilities, it’s almost perfect! If we had knew earlier that it’s so useful, we didn’t had to hired a shipping boat.”
Tang San smiled and said “Well, we needed sea charts to navigate as well, the current we have, is from Purple Pearl Pirates Group. They spent many years in these sea to have a drawing of the sea charts which we now possesed. We didn’t have that when we just started our journey.”
Dai Mubai asked “Little San, this Abyssal Dragon Boat speed is terrifying fast. Can’t we just rely on it’s speed and sail all our way to Sea God Island?”
Tang San shook his head and replied “i don’t think so, no matter how fast the Abyssal Dragon Boat is, i doubt it will be faster then all the Sea Spirit Beasts, let alone the monstrous number of Demonic Great White Shark that is said to be here. If we get caught encircled in the middle of the ocean, i’m afraid we might not even have the chance to try to escape.”
Dai MuBai furrowed his brows and asked ” So what now? We can’t possibly just wait here forever.”
Tang San thought for a while, and said “let’s wait for nightfall. While waiting, we will have to do some tests, if it’s successful, then landing on Sea God Island will be a piece of cake.” As he said these, lights started to emanate bwtween his eye brows, a shiny blue radiating Vast Sea Shroud have appeared in his palms.
The Shrek Seven Monster were all intelligent, as soon as they saw the Vast Sea Shroud, they understood. If the Vast Sea Shroud abilities, Vast Sea Barrier could envelope the whole Abyssal Dragon Boat, making them undetectable, then, they would’nt even have to fear hundred thousand year Spirit Beast!
When they first encountered the Deep Sea Demonic Whale, due to the fact that it’s sttack was too sudden, and also because it’s attack were all AoE abilities, Tang San was unable to protect everyone at the same time. But the situation now is different. They have ample time to prepare. If they can be undetected. Then using the Abyssal Dragon Boat speed, they could land on Sea God Island easily.
-will stop for today, if i’m free i can translate the remaing episode when i got time. Contact me if bluesilver need help in translating? Haha, signing off-
it seems like they dont want any help… they already have 3 translators or editors and they started releasing less! when it was just Bagelson he was releasing shit tons almost 10x as much as they release now with 3 or more people working on it
what is going on? a month or two ago they released 2-3 chapters everyweek. now there haven’t been even one this month. they haven’t even assigned a translator to ch216 yet according to the schedule. did they quite? i thought douluo dalu was a rather popular LN so why the sudden hiatus?
then maybe they should ask for donations. using the “no donations” as an excuse is stupid. i appreciate bagels work on the series and really like his translations, one of the bests translatoters i know. but if he doesn’t have time to at least release 2-3ch a week then i really should hand it over to a site which does accept donations and work with a schedule 3-4ch a week plus 6-7 sponsored chapters which is the normal. and just like many others have mentioned, it isn’t just him there are 4 of them and i really doubt all suddenly fell in love… and i don’t think they have had exams for 3 months without stop… they used to have a rate at 2-3ch/week but the last 3 months they have only released 12ch.
for reals, this started of better than the LNs that charge for releases. now i dont even expect a chap from here for a month… at least thats how often i check this site anymore
At this point, i’m just going to start reading the lower quality translations from the other site. It sucks because Bagelson translated so masterfully, but I just can’t wait.
they have more translations at another site? granted its not on par with these releases i dont mind reading those, then rereading the better version here when it finally releases
Are you all a bunch of 5 year Olds? If u really are so impatient go and learn how to translate DD and do it yourself. Remember bagel and piggy do this for a hobby, they have no obligation to post there chapters or follow you idiot kids’ pressure to release. Be glad they are even posting the translation for you to read…. for free I may add
Can we not talk stupid & think b4 you piss off the Translators. No one wants you hear you bitch & moan about the chapters! NO ONE! The translators will translate when their good & ready & not b4, so do yourself & everyone else a favour & chill. Non of you folks puts in lick a of work into the translations so least you can do is chill
Can we not post links or general info on other translations if they exist. Its a douche move to undermine the very translators whose work you all depend on for people who want their 5 minutes then will quit the project. Is it me or are people lacking proper etiquette, decorum & courtesy? Let the translators do their work without hassle & stop bitching
With all the respect to translators who work hard to make stuff appear here is it really a sin to post here a question when will new chapters arrive/where alternative translations (even being worse quality) can be found? It is internet man, trying to silence people (especially when they aren’t aggresive here) is really silly. I am thankful to translators and almost never write nor complain here but they didn’t give a single word to people – is it hard to let people know in a short comment? Not even schedule has been updated since last realese two weeks ago as bagel usually writes when the chapter is chosen to be translated. Maybe PiggyBottle knows whats up – he didnt give a word neither.
With all the respect to translators who do work hard to make stuff appear here is it really a sin to ask when is the next release? Or ask if there are any other sites translating this novel as well even with worse quality? This is internet man, trying to silence people just for simple questions is really silly…these are usually polite too (there are accasional trolls too but not going to mention who as that’s their goal). So stop being a “white knight” of the translators. Yes, I am thankful for all they did here but people like you take it to the extreme. A simple comment from Bagelson or PiggyBottle saying what is happening would be nice for all the readers here – is requesting a simple status update too much? Also Bagel hasn’t updated the schedule site since last release 2 weeks ago, he usually leaves a mark when a chapter has been started. He didn’t do that this time so it can make people a little worried here.
Sorry for the double post, it didnt show the first one after submiting, so please don’t accuse me of spamming – I very rarely post here too so I hope you guys understand.
Its not about asking questions but the way in which questions are asked. If one is to simply asked “hey Piggy or Bagel can anyone update us on when we’ll get new chaps?” Something along those lines would be respectable. However, belittling the tanslators efforts for the series by writting snippets of the next chapter or telling people theres other translations undermines their work. Making agressive statements towards the translators aint cool either cause their human man, & they probably dont like people coming at them all agressive…or am i wrong?
calm down neckbeard. Everyone here has the upmost respect for the inscrutable bagelson. His translations really are a work of genius. He’s also created a community around that work in which people look forward to the next release and enjoy discussing it.
People like you truly undermine what he’s trying to do. I hate seeing the typical neckbeard statement, “they will translate when they translate”. Jeez man, calm the hell down. Let the community speak, stop trying to silence or think you have some sort of special position because of your views.
Yes there is one more site with much worse quality translations. The whole story is translated, They have chapters 201 to 336. If anyone wants to know just comment below.
im with MoeZilla, people like you should be silenced. your messing it up for all of us. its bc of your Agressive and belittling comments that piggy and bagel will stop translating. its not cool….
It’s a free Fucking site!!! If they didn’t want anyone to just post what they want, they shouldn’t have had free comments available in the first place morons. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. Dipshits telling other people to shut up need to look in the mirror. Has it occurred to you that if they did care more for this site’s followers they would give more frequent updates? Or at least Fucking comment. people like you who tell others to shut up and wait till they translate are the retards, maybe you should go help them translate…. Oh wait they recently got 2 more translators and slowed down their releases. So you people need to STFU.
Meh, all of you white knights just need to deal with it. People do what they want, just like Bagel will do what he wants. I hold him to no standard of any type. It’s a hobby for him. Cool beans. But i’ve noticed the knights of the Bagel table are even jumping all over people who do some work themselves by translating little snippets of the chapters. Isn’t this what you are telling them to do you hypocrites? I remember reading a post earlier from one of the white knights along the grounds that if they dont like the timing of releases then go translate it themselves? Dumb asses, thats what they are doing. If Bagle and who ever the other persons name is thats translating as well doesnt like hearing peoples complaints well…. theres only one thing left to do, and I think you know what that is.
I have returned. It seems the dweebs of the round-Bagel are really swinging those keyboard swords at everyone when I’m not around!
Do you think it’ll make senpai notice you? If you slobber all over yourselves and attack anyone who isn’t piling praise and cum onto the translators senpai might notice your devotion? Ha. Haha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Look, I know you white knights are all on edge because you just spotted your first pubic hair but TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE! Senpai isn’t going to let you slobber on his dick just because you swing your might keyboard sword at everyone who says something besides “I hope the chapters come out when the translators have enough space time to translate them”.
Seriously holy fuck, how can you call people a kid, when you are on the fucking internet protecting the honor of someone who doesn’t even check the comments of his own site anymore!
Go play white knights somewhere else before I get my dark wizard hat and send all you kids back to level 1.
Hahahahahaha I understand your fear easy to invite the devil in, not so easy to get him to leave. Think I’ll stick around for a bit and enjoy the frustrated tears of you white knights.
And again, defending your translators against your imaginary dragon. If people are curious about chapters this is the best to ask questions. Just because you fucktards of the round-Bagel don’t have the balls to break from your pack of sheeple and ask a question you’re curious about, doesn’t mean everyone else is just as spineless.
Don’t make me start trolling. If you want me to troll, I will. Because I guess I am whatever you say I am. Right Mr. White knight? HahahahHHahahahhahahahahahahahahaa
Aha! You must be a sad pleeb once defeated by the greatness that is Rick!
Worry not little maggot, I will spare you further shame.
Though judging by your user name, I can tell you’re a lazy person so who knows if you’ll be able to handle further teachings.
Lastly, if I gave a flying fuck about what anybody said, or if anyone on the fucking internet have a fuck about what I just said, would I still be Rick?
NO! I wouldn’t you foolish fool, which is why I don’t give a fuck other than watching this comment section and all these white knights burn.
P.S.you cared enough to respond to my previous comment, so check. Hahaahahahaha
?.. I’m not rick and I probably should not have called MoeZilla a neckbeard, but at the time of leaving that comment I was just tired of seeing all these “white knights” trying to silence people who are curious about new chapters.
Im sorry if this term offended you. But I still stick with the sentiment of that post.
I apologize…but to be honest I don’t believe you, considering I comment saying I know who you are after saying “neckbeard”, and coincidentally Rick shows up…I would have to be a morty to not notice something fishy…
Firstly, MY Morty would notice the smell of fish before the likes of you ever would.
And B, go back like 10 chapters, I’ve been here for a long time. Doing my best to drag all these white knights into hell. Some I’ve bested, some have simply retreated. Then I went into seclusion in an attempt to master a new dark spell, blew up a small town and boom. Back an better than ever
Can’t you read? I even spelt my fucking name out for you.
I was the voice of dissent before a reader had no name, I am the Rickest Rick! Destroyer of pleeby little white knights and conqueror of your mom’s nasty vagina!
You want my Rick brain all over this mess of a comments section? Or do you want it to maintain SOME level of hospitality? I’m out to molecularly reconstruct the White Knights of the Round-Bagel with my new hand held reconstructor, so move aside or get turned into a fleshy human letter!
Fire, I’m adding this guy to the list of forced body shape change with the new molecular reconstructor, he gets to be the “!” at the end of the pleeb sentence.
a whole month without a chap. i really should suggest that someone at wuxiaworld should start translating this. the whole thing is basically in a abadoned state….
I agree. Not criticizing bagel, as I realize it’s a ton of work to translate these chapters and I appreciate what he’s done, but I’d rather see him drop it so another translator will pick it up if it’s gonna continue at the pace it has been for the last 2 months or so. It will take over 2 years to catch up at this rate, and it definitely has enough popularity for a site like wuxiaworld to pick it up.
They didn’t say anything; the schedule site hasn’t been edited since last release and there are no marks of activity…. I hope everything is allright with Bagel and he took some vacation but who knows (not to mention it would be cool if he left a word here but Im never complaining); also there might be a possibility that someone hacked their stuff but thats just me speculating as it is a bit weird this time
So I’ve decided that being the great and benevolent Lord and Savior that you all see me as I would drop by again and inform the lower species that there won’t be any DD this weekend as Bagel is currently unreachable and not finished with 216.
That’s probably more words than your under-evolved brains can comprehend but I tried my best to keep the words simple and short.
Until next time you morty keyboard warriors, LICK LICK LICK MY BALLS!!
You guys are funny! Wtf is a neckbeard? FYI no one is acting like “white nights” its just common courtesy to not undermine people who give you free service. I understand why people from different generations dislike this 1, its all about “me, me, me” & people thinking bc its the internet its ok to be ass to mouth. No one is saying to not speak your mind but you dont have to go agitate the translators to possibly drop the project. If you have a need to troll i cant stop you even when you use multiple names. BTW the translators only use the site for hosting chapters, that doesnt mean they run or own it.
We all want more chapters but my belief in motivating the translators to keep working bc translating chapters from one language to another completely grammatically different language is beyond hard. The amount of time & dedication that is required to accomplish their work is impressive. That they do it for free without compensation & just for the love of the LN they we all enjoy. Trust me i want more chapters like everyone else but im not gonna harrass the translators to do it. Maybe i was raised different or maybe its bc im Canadian but i try to show appreciation for people who do me a solid.
I believe your Canadian heritage and upbringing not only means you were raised differently, but are also superior than us non Canadians. Also Kudos on not harassing the translators like all the rest of us who are not part of the White Knights club.
You’re comments prove you have showed appreciation for the translators and they will look at you in a better light than everyone else.
Congratulations on winning the commenting game of this site. I’m sure Bagelson would agree with me. You can sleep well tonight, Knight Canadian MoeZilla.
Don’t think anyone is mad at Bagelson, but I can understand that some people would rather see a more consistent translator pick the series up if he no longer has the time. Like people have said it takes a ton of time to translate a 10k+ word chapter to english, but it would be nice to know whether he’s super busy right now or if this just the speed he’s going to continue translating at in the future. The reality is that if he only has time to translate 1 chapter a week it might make more sense to get in touch with a site like WuxiaWorld and see if they want to take over so it doesn’t take 2 years to catch up to the 300+ chapters of completed chinese chapters. They have paid translators and given Douluo Dalu’s popularity I’m guessing they’d be more than happy to take over. That doesn’t mean we aren’t all very appreciative of the hundreds or thousands of hours Bagelson has no doubt put into translating up until now, but it’s hard to keep up with a series when updates are so inconsistent and spaced out.
How hard is it to translate when there are 4 translators and a site they can literally go to right now that has it translated? The site has an extremely rough translation but seriously they can’t go there and smooth out the already translated chapters and post them here? Come on translators step it up a bit
Maybe because it is no less work to try to rework a ‘rough’ translation as you put it, into readable english than it is to translate it from scratch? Especially because you still have to crosscheck the entire text with the original to avoid mistranslations. But if it’s so easy, you could try get a chines raw, put it through google translate and see if it’s easy to rework it into a readable text.
to everyone who are courius what happen next, i’ll tell you a bit :
tang san got stronger, xiao wu ressurected, war between spirit hall and 2 great empire, bibi dong killed, spirit hall destroyed, happily ever after, hahahahahahahaha,…..
Not gonna complain about why there isnt an update for the Translation but all I’m asking is
Is everything alright on the other end? Just take your time in doing what you are prioritizing 1st. I love reading this translation work you all have done but I hate to see your lives being affected because of it (which leads to delaying the translation).
Hope to read a post from you all soon regarding the hiccups
“I lived on the Sea God Island for over ten years, and never have I even heard of a single land Spirit Master managing to become a member of the Sea God Island.”
So weird to said suddenly that not a single land spirit master is become a member of the island after so many “can go but can’t come out” “can become a member of the island” ……..
Thank you again!
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thanks for the chapter…
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thanks a lot
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THANKS!
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Thanks! 😃
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Tang San said: “let’s first try and steer this ship.” – Small L
Tand San in one place instead of Tang San.
Two small i instead of I.
Story getting complicated with passing to the island even being hard.
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Thank you for the second chapter PiggyBottle 🙂
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Ty very much for this 2 new chapters!
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This humble servant would like to thank the lord piggybottle for such wondrous gifts 🙂
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Tkanks for the chapter!
“Master your spirit ranks are not just slightly higher but rather horrifyingly high.” <- Made me laugh with tears. X'D
I really want the next chapter, beautiful ocean floor and shenanigans with spirit tools
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I want that abyssal dragon boat……T.T
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Thank you.
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I hope Pearl stays, even if just an aide/attendant. I really like her character. Not sure why, but we just… rubs me the right way. Erm… that sounded… *cough*. Anyways, thanks for the chapter!
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I actually didn’t like how her character was handled. The way Tang San turned her straight left a bad taste in my mouth.
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It’s more like she went from hating men to liking men.
If a person can go from thinking they’re straight to discovering they’re actually gay/bi, then the opposite is possible too.
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I don’t really understand the problem. In the end she still wanted to marry Xiao Wu, so it’s not like she was scared straight. More like scared bi, if anything. It’s well possible for some really attractive person to challenge the boundaries of someone’s sexual preferences.
Plus, to quote Fatty, Tang San and the others all have ‘whore faces’. 8D
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Thanks for your hard work
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Thank you for your hard work!
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Thanks for the chappy! I really hope that they don’t encounter the sharks, at most maybe see them, Tang San can kill them later for spirit rings 😛 right now I just want them to get to the island
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thanks for the 2 chapters even thou you released 3 before! that is an amazing speed:)
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It use to be a lot faster. 2-3 chaps every other week isn’t much compared to how it use to be -.-
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thanks a lot—!
well, that’s nice! sharks, huh…that ship’s practically a submarine, how cool!
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Thanks for the chapter PiggyBottle!
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thanks for the chapter!
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Thanks so much for the hardwork!
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Thanks!
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THANKS FOR THE CHAPTERS!! 😀
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Introducing battleship command with great whites. Thanks for the chapter
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Thank you very much for the double chapters!
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Oh, come ON.
Tang San is so amazing, powerful and handsome. Oh how ingenious and strong he is. He’s so cool that he turned a LESBIAN bisexual for him.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a social justice-type person, and I quite like the story as well as Tang San. But often it really does feel like the author is just masturbating to himself over how brilliant Tang San is.
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And thanks for the dual release!
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I feel you… I just wanted to complain that now even a LESBIAN woman fell for Tang San. As if sexual orientation were just a question of how attractive the other person is… And as if EVERY SINGLE strong woman in existence will naturally fall for the first man who defeats her. Because, you know, every woman craves having a partner who is stronger as her. And so, regardless of her sexual orientation she will definitely fall for the very first man who happens to be stronger than her. He has to be attractive of course. But aren’t all main characters attractive? Because, you know, where would we get to, if a main character was less than perfect.
Sorry, I’m feeling slightly pissed because of this. Details like this are starting to seriously ruin the story for me. I understand that Purple Pearl respects Tang San. And it’s fine if she likes him. But ‘like’ isn’t equivalent to ‘love’. You can respect an like somebody without falling in love with them. Especially, if they don’t fit your sexual orientation.
And what is it with ‘she doesn’t dislike men any more’? Did she coose to become lesbian because she dislikes men? Then she is surrounded by a whole lot of men, considering she dislikes them so much. Never mind the fact the sexual orientation isn’t a choice.
So Tang San ‘cured’ Purple Pearl of her homosexuality. What a miracle.
Sorry, for the long rant, but I am pretty pissed.
But I am also really grateful to the translators who are putting so much work into this story. Thanks a lot.
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I agree with all you wrote. I’m pissed too. This story doesn’t need such details.
But more important for me is to thank Piggybottle for this chapter.
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Inherent misogyny is prevalent in pretty much all xianxia. Not in the sense that women are disliked, but in the sense that they are demeaned – treated as objects, or mere trophies to be gained.
Doulou Dalu is actually one of the most progressive xianxia in regards to that (and several other areas). It does attempt to give some form of characterisation to several female characters, and it even introduces… a lesbian! Though of course, not for long. I don’t think gay people exist in the xianxia universe. By nature, the writing is very traditionalist and it displays very conservative values e.g. women are attracted to powerful men.
Adding to that. The base idea of xianxia is, sadly, that the main character is utter perfection. The strongest, most intelligent and most attractive person in the universe. So by the laInherent misogyny is prevalent in pretty much all xianxia. Not in the sense that women are disliked, but in the sense that they are demeaned – treated as objects, or mere trophies to be gained.
This is actually one of the most progressive xianxia in regards to that. It does attempt to give some form of characterisation to several female characters, and it even introduces… a lesbian! Though of course, not for long.
The very idea of xianxia is, sadly, that the main character is utter perfection. The strongest, most intelligent and most attractive person in the universe. So it follows that all women are attracted to him, and all men either bow down to his power or feel threatened by it.
This is all part of the package that is xianxia fiction.
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Inherent misogyny is prevalent in pretty much all xianxia. Not in the sense that women are disliked, but in the sense that they are demeaned – treated as objects, or mere trophies to be gained.
Doulou Dalu is actually one of the most progressive xianxia in regards to that (and several other areas). It does attempt to give some form of characterisation to several female characters, and it even introduces… a lesbian! Though of course, not for long. I don’t think gay people exist in the xianxia universe. By nature, the writing is very traditionalist and it displays very conservative values e.g. women are attracted to powerful men.
The core idea of xianxia is, sadly, that the main character is utter perfection (he walks the paths to becoming an immortal). The strongest, most intelligent and most attractive person in the universe. So it follows that all women are attracted to him, and all men either bow down to his power or feel threatened by it.
This is all part of the package that is xianxia fiction.
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Which is probably one of the reasons, or even the main reason, why this is the only Xianxia Novel I ever seriously attempted to read. I gave every other I tried after a few chapters. And at the moment I am seriously considering dropping this novel as well.
And yes, I can see that the women are treated ‘well’ by the standards of the genre. But I seriously dislike misogyny and objectification of women.
I guess what I am trying to say is that while I understand that this inherent misogyny is inherent in the genre and culture this novel stems from, it still bothers me. A lot. And it ist spoiling the fun this series used to be.
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Oh, I don’t blame you for being bothered at all. Personally, I treat most xianxia (and web novels in general) as cheap enjoyment – weak character development, a fountain of cliches and ‘fortunate’ events. Lots of powerups and fighting. A fun read to take a break from studying.
Personally, I’m sticking with this. The battles are great, the element of teamwork adds to them immensely. The characters are likeable enough and I would like to see their story through to the end, tying up all the loose ends. It’s an enjoyable read. Perhaps not a finely written piece of literature, but I don’t believe that any web novels are.
To be honest, I believe that misogynistic themes are actually pretty weak in Doulou Dalu. This chapter aside, I don’t believe that they’ll reappear that prominently.
Out of curiosity, do you read anything else online?
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The fact that I like most of the characters and would like to see their story through to the end is part of the reason why I am this pissed. And yes, I completely agree with you on the ‘enjoyable read but not great literature’ part.
And it is true that the misogyny is comparably weak (which is part of the reason I haven’t given up on this novel yet).
As for your question: I read some manga, but I haven’t found many that I thoroughly enjoy. As for light novels, I really like Yu Wo’s novels, but they are in an entirely different genre. As far as Wuxia and Xianxia goes, this is the only novel I have ever seriously attempted to read.
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Oh man, I totally feel you. Reading a bad novel is one thing. Reading a good novel, which slowly turns into a bad novel, is another thing entirely – and it is so much worse. That sense of disappointment at something which you genuinely enjoyed having the life sucked out of it is depressing. (Not that I’m saying DD has become bad, not at all.)
Ah, right. I didn’t recognise the name at first, but turns out I have read some of Yu Wo’s work. I read Legend of the Sun Knight for quite a while, but dropped it after a certain incident with the MC’s eyes. Reading from there on was too depressing for me, so I sadly gave up on it. I think KnM was decent as well, and I’ve heard that 1/2 Prince is good.
Well, it was pleasant chatting with you Anon – see you :^)
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I completely agree. It is so sad what some people do to their stories or characters. It is the same with seeing a character with a lot of potential slowly being destroyed by bad character developement.
I think you should give Legend of the Sun Knight another try. I know which incident you are referring to (I read the entire series) and although it does get darker overall after this incident, it still remains a good read and retains much of its humour. I liked 1/2 Prince as well and it is less dark than Legend of the Sun Knight (but still, LSK remains my favourite)
And thanks for the very enjoyable conversation 🙂
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Yeah Purple Pearl just pissed me off. Sexism and homophobia in one sexy-and-will-inevitably-be-turned-straight-by-the-MC-because-he-automatically-causes-every-woman-in-a-thirty-mile-radius-to-gush-a-waterfall-out-of-their-nethers-because-fuck-you-he’s-the-protagonist package. Honestly, I love the characters in this light novel, but I’m seriously pissed at the author right now.
On a happier note, I’d recommend I Shall Seal The Heavens as a good read for you because it has almost none of that. Sure a few women fall for the MC, but it’s nowhere near as bad as in most Xianxia. Also, the women who are introduced as badasses remain badasses, and the MC’s sex drive is so low I’m convinced he’s a genuine asexual. Besides, there is an implied lesbian couple several hundred chapters in, as well as a pair of “brothers” who are also implied to be in a relationship. Granted, they’re minor villains, and they don’t last as long as the lesbians, but still.
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Yup, having lesbians and homos automatically makes a LN great.
Although I disagree with all the ‘progressive’ bullshit, I still second the recommendation for I Shall Seal the Heavens though, it is the only LN worth reading.
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Please define ‘progressive bullshit’.
Or do you mean anything that doesn’t conform to ‘traditional’ values?
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Gays will always be seen as weak, as well as most woman. it is psychology, not sexism or homophobia. If an MC is gay, it is harder to make him seem stronger when not in a fight, but still isn’t that hard. Woman were originally programmed to stay by the baby, while the men go out and hunt, and it is hardwired men’s brains to see woman as weaker
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‘progressive’
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It’s true that LGBT characters don’t automatically make a story good, but it does feel nice for gay people to have representation. How would you like it if every single story out there had straight people depicted only as comic relief or as freaks? Props for knowing and liking ISSTH though. I love the romance between Meng Hao and Xu Qing, and the action and worldbuilding are fucking badass. The only fault is it starts off a bit slow.
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i think it wus her way of sayin she submits 2 him doubt theyd ever seen someone like tht b4
in xianxia its th law oif the jungle remember the strong usin the weak
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Sexual orientation is a choice. The homosexual movement just tries to bury this up. There are many instances of homosexuals who have repented. Their stories are buried and many times ignored.
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Sure it is a choice. Because people chose to be homosexuals during times where this sexual orientation was punished with the death penalty. Apperently they thought it funny to risk death just for what exactly? If you can explain to me why someone risk death to choose a sexual orientation then I am willing to accept your argument.
Until then I stick to: sexual orientation is not a choice.
(Although people with bisexual orientation can of course choose whether to be with a man or a woman. But not everybody is bysexual)
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(this sexual orientation = homosexuality)
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Yeah, but just like a straight person who discovers that, deep down, they’re bisexual, a person who thinks they’re bisexual or lesbian/gay, but deep down isn’t, can also come around to becoming straight if something happens to cause that change in their minds.
Captain Pearl just discovered that, maybe, she doesn’t hate men anymore.
It never said anything about her not liking women too.
I see nothing wrong with her changing her mind when someone does something to move her heart powerfully enough.
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But you have to take context into account; the author obviously meant that she was ‘cured’ of her homosexuality.
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That’s only one interpretation, though.
What we think is ‘obvious’ is, in fact, completely open to interpretation until the author says differently directly.
And from where I’m sitting, she wasn’t “cured”. She was “awakened to a side she didn’t know was in her.”
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the definition of “cured” is “relieve (a person or animal) of the symptoms of a disease or condition”.
and the definition of homosexuality is “the condition of experiencing physical, emotional and sexual attraction to members of one’s own gender”. Therefore Purple Pearl was in fact cured of homosexuality.
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True, it is possible to believe you are homosexual (or heterosexual), while you are in fact bisexual, simply because you have, so far, only been attracted to people from one gender (never found ‘the right person’ from the other gender, so to speak).
But I agree with matt3134 that in this context it definitely felt like he ‘cured’ her from her homosexuality. Especially considering that her sexual orientation was called ‘skewed’ and ‘strange’ before.
And: hating men is not equivalent to being lesbian. You can have absolutely no problem with men and still be lesbian. And you can hate men (for whatever reason) and still be heterosexual. Although in that case you will probably end up being asexual. But it is not as if you can ‘choose’ to be homosexual because of a dislike for the other gender.
And this is probably what bothers me the most. Respecting and liking Tang San? I have absolutely no problem with that. But like equals not love.
(And by the way: if she hated men that much, why the hell was her crew pretty much exclusively male from what we have seen so far?)
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So many people chose to commit adultery, when such an act was punished with the death penalty. So many people stole money and corrupt their official position, when they know that the death penalty awaits if they get caught. But no one will make the argument that someone is born an adulterer/adulteress, or born a thief.
The point is, people will disregard consequences when their action is perceived to bring them pleasure or advantage.
Yes, homosexual people derive “pleasure” from their homosexual acts. And for that, some will brave even death penalties. But none of this argue that someone is born with this urge, or that it is set in stone. It is a learned behavior, molded by situations, inputs, sometimes abuses. And some of them, after years of homosexuality, renounce this lifestyle afterwards as sinful. This is why homosexuality is not equal to skin-color, despite the vigorous attempt by the homosexual-lobby to make the connection and thus ride the “racism”/”bigotry” train. One cannot change one’s skin color, but one can change one’s sexual preference, which is amply documented
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But for thievery as well as adultery there are ‘objective’ (so to speak) reasons. People steal things they cannot afford (or money in order to afford those things). They steal because they have something to gain from it. People commit adultery because they cannot find pleasure in their relationship or because they are attracted to someone outside this relationship. And while neither behaviour ist socially accepted, it is based upon socially accepted goals or desires, which are considered understandable by most people.
If homosexuality were learned, the question would be: where do I learn it in a society that claims it doesn’t exist? How come, people who have never been exposed to homosexuality still turn out to be homosexual if this desire is socially learned?
Also, there are many homosexuals who severly agonise over their desire or preference, which they are told is unnatural and still it remains. How do you explain this, if it is supposed to be a conscious decision?
As for the part about this desire being set in stone: Many people are bisexual (according to studies). Some are drawn more to the opposite gender, some to the same and some don’t have any preference. Many might never notice because they choose to ignore any attraction they might feel that doesn’t fit the picture they have of themselves (or the picture society paints as ‘normal’). Of course those people can choose to reject their attraction to one gender and also ‘switch’ their orientation. But that is because they have a different orientation to start with.
And while there are people who are disgusted by the very idea of sharing a bed with a person of the same sex, there are also people who are disgusted by the idea of sharing a bed with a person of the opposite sex.
And maybe it is true that one isn’t born with a sexual preference. But maybe it is. As far as I know, there is no scientific prove as to either of those theories (that hasn’t already been proven wrong at some point). As with most issues concerning human developement, gender issues etc, you can find studies, experiments and whatever you like that prove or undermine each theory you might support or oppose.
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Science has proven time and time again that homosexuality is a chemical imbalance in the person’s brain which is why, once that chemical imbalance is corrected either by the natural process of the body or by the use of medications their homosexuality tendencies cease to exist. However, the LGBT community continues to cover up these studies with their bigotry! This said, be who you think you are, I don’t care either way, but science is fact. Also, everyone is whining and complaining about a subject which is still punished by death in most countries in this world. These countries, and their people don’t give two shits about your opinion, and your whining and complaining will never change that.
Just a few links that state the facts, but no one will read the “facts!”
http://www.livescience.com/13408-brain-chemical-serotonin-sexual-orientation.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1339878/posts
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I have read both of the articles you suggested. As for the first one, I would like to quote a significant sentence: “But one of the co-authors, neuroscientist Zhou-Feng Chen of Washington University, cautioned against forming hasty conclusions about the potential influence of this neurotransmitter on human sexual orientation.” The entire study is about mice. Not humans.
As for your second article, I would like to read the study it refers to. But, as far as I know, scientists have no idea what about 80% of our genes do. So unless this study has checked every single human gene and has proven that none of them can have anything to do with sexual orientation, I doubt that it proves anything.
As for ‘Science is Fact’: Science has been wrong many times. Pretty much every big discovery overturnes something that has been considered ‘fact’ up until this discovery.
And maybe the people you are refering to are not interested in my opinion. But then they probably are not interested in you opinion either. But if nobody ever tries to change anything, nothing will change. So the argument ‘nothing will ever change that’ is true insofar as it keeps people from trying and thereby proves itself.
Also, you might want to consider your usage of language. Insulting someone who doesn’t share your opinion won’t win you the argument. Actually, it will probably hurt you cause since it evokes the impression that your arguments lack backing and you therefore have to resort to insults to support your cause.
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If you want to read feminist literature, you are obviously in the wrong place.
If a straight person can turn lesbian, why can’t someone go the other way?
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Lol
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I rolled my eyes at this one, too. Honestly, the whole Purple Pearl character just seemed… like, it’s okay if she rapes the currently mentally retarded Xiao Wu because she’s a girl, how much harm can she do, when Xiao Wu has been Tang San’s berserk button for forever? Then even though she’s the leader of a bunch of pirates, Tang San doesn’t get annoyed she tries to attack him when up until now his entire philosophy is ‘pull out the grass by the roots’ and he even killed almost an entire crew of one of the pirate groups that served under her? Not only that, he just takes her as a servant(/student?)? And then she falls in love with him?
Yeah. Okay. This definitely makes sense.
But yes, thanks for the chapter.
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I can understand the reasoning behind Tang San not killing her. For one, he was grateful that she and her people saved his comrades. Also, she displayed no intention of killing him (even stating that he was free to go, provided he would be a bit humiliated first), even after he attacked and humiliated her. So basically, forcing her to accept him as superior was the mor logical route to take.
But about the other points, I totally agree with you. Apparently, as far as the author is concerend, a woman being touched by a man is horrible (as seen when Tang San scolds Xiao Wu for her fighting style. Although everything between unwanted sexual touching and rape is just wrong, apparently in this universe it is also bad if a woman employs a fighting style that requires a woman to touch a man), while it is absolutely no problem if another women harasses her or goes even further… So yeah, I don’t get it either, why the pure fact that purple pearl is a woman is enough to squench Tang San’s fury.
And I already said everything I have to say about Purple Pearl falling in love with Tang San.
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I am not very well versed with this xiaxia universe so can’t comment on the misogyny. I think Tang San left her alive and didn’t kill her despite being angry was primarily because she is a woman. So far in this series, he has not gone against a woman with killing intent. In the previous chapter, he slowed down while attacking her and then did’t kill because of fatty and his disciple asking him to stop. But he needed her “resources”, so the next logical option was to capture her with such ferocity that she wouldn’t dare go against him. Makes logical sense to me.
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thanks for the 2 chapters
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So I was thinking, Xiao Wu’s spirit is a rabbit, right? And she herself, used to be a rabbit, right? And spirits are generally hereditary inheritance, right? So… wouldn’t that mean that essentially, anyone with a beast spirit is a descendant of a hundred thousand year spirit beast that decided to take human form, and tool spirits are from human bloodlines?
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Maybe your right
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You DEFINITELY were thinking greedxviii… I think you’re onto something there.
Or MAYBE an extremely long time ago humans were experimenting with science/magic and a catastrophe happened that turned certain people into spirit beasts? So after certain conditions are met they have the ability to turn back? Or maybe with the multiple universe thing, certain people get reincarnated as spirit beasts…hmmm
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Thanks fot the chapter😁
“Ji Xiang looked at Tang San then the others, in his heart he secretly thought, Master your spirit ranks are not just slightly higher but rather horrifyingly high.” ➡ make me laugh 😄(funny)🙌
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Omg I’m rereading and am at chapter 88 now, it’s not felt so far away to me before but it really has been so long already and we’re seemingly touching the finish line, uuuu I’m sad it’s this close to ending already. I’m really grateful for your translations as well, I guess I’ll read DD2 after this one and then who knows from there. When that time comes I hope to support you guys and read more of yours translations if you continue, so thanks again and see I wish you well!!!
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i think a lot of people are loosing interest in there translations. we wait 2 weeks for 2 chapters to release for DD then come to notice they release Teasers of other LNs? is like they’re spending more time translating LNs that they want to, besides doing DD…
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thanks for the chapter!
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On the front of the Abyssal Dragon Ship, there is a crystal orb. When the ship is above water, the orb is white. When it submerged, it become blue. The longer it stays submerged, the blue will slowly turn red. When the orb turns fully red, it meant that the ship internal compartment is running out of oxygen, and it had to go up above the surface again
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Breathing in the salty sea air, Ning RongRong lamented, “Not withstanding ten thousand gold spirit coins, even if it’s one hundred thousand gold spirit coins, it’s still worth it. Other then not having any attack capabilities, it’s almost perfect! If we had knew earlier that it’s so useful, we didn’t had to hired a shipping boat.”
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Tang San smiled and said “Well, we needed sea charts to navigate as well, the current we have, is from Purple Pearl Pirates Group. They spent many years in these sea to have a drawing of the sea charts which we now possesed. We didn’t have that when we just started our journey.”
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Dai Mubai asked “Little San, this Abyssal Dragon Boat speed is terrifying fast. Can’t we just rely on it’s speed and sail all our way to Sea God Island?”
Tang San shook his head and replied “i don’t think so, no matter how fast the Abyssal Dragon Boat is, i doubt it will be faster then all the Sea Spirit Beasts, let alone the monstrous number of Demonic Great White Shark that is said to be here. If we get caught encircled in the middle of the ocean, i’m afraid we might not even have the chance to try to escape.”
Dai MuBai furrowed his brows and asked ” So what now? We can’t possibly just wait here forever.”
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Tang San thought for a while, and said “let’s wait for nightfall. While waiting, we will have to do some tests, if it’s successful, then landing on Sea God Island will be a piece of cake.” As he said these, lights started to emanate bwtween his eye brows, a shiny blue radiating Vast Sea Shroud have appeared in his palms.
The Shrek Seven Monster were all intelligent, as soon as they saw the Vast Sea Shroud, they understood. If the Vast Sea Shroud abilities, Vast Sea Barrier could envelope the whole Abyssal Dragon Boat, making them undetectable, then, they would’nt even have to fear hundred thousand year Spirit Beast!
When they first encountered the Deep Sea Demonic Whale, due to the fact that it’s sttack was too sudden, and also because it’s attack were all AoE abilities, Tang San was unable to protect everyone at the same time. But the situation now is different. They have ample time to prepare. If they can be undetected. Then using the Abyssal Dragon Boat speed, they could land on Sea God Island easily.
-will stop for today, if i’m free i can translate the remaing episode when i got time. Contact me if bluesilver need help in translating? Haha, signing off-
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Thank you for your efforts Zach. You really should contact Bluesilver, i’m guessing there’s never too much help.
Heck, if they don’t want your help why not just post your own translations on reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/noveltranslations/
But hey, I’m just saying all this out of self-interest 😉
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yes.thank you. pls contact bluesilver and help us readers to enjoy this great novel at a faster pace
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it seems like they dont want any help… they already have 3 translators or editors and they started releasing less! when it was just Bagelson he was releasing shit tons almost 10x as much as they release now with 3 or more people working on it
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Thanks!!!
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THANKS
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Cock
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Thanks. Can’t wait for the next batch.
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Any idea when we can expect some new chapters?
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4 more days, if they keep the 2 week release schedule they’ve been doing up. or longer i have no clue anymore
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what is going on? a month or two ago they released 2-3 chapters everyweek. now there haven’t been even one this month. they haven’t even assigned a translator to ch216 yet according to the schedule. did they quite? i thought douluo dalu was a rather popular LN so why the sudden hiatus?
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Perhaps some of them are students and have some exams.
Another possibility is love…
They never asked donations. It’s a hard, long job which need passion and which isn’t fun. They can be tired and we can’t request a schedule.
I don’t think they’ll drop the novel.
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then maybe they should ask for donations. using the “no donations” as an excuse is stupid. i appreciate bagels work on the series and really like his translations, one of the bests translatoters i know. but if he doesn’t have time to at least release 2-3ch a week then i really should hand it over to a site which does accept donations and work with a schedule 3-4ch a week plus 6-7 sponsored chapters which is the normal. and just like many others have mentioned, it isn’t just him there are 4 of them and i really doubt all suddenly fell in love… and i don’t think they have had exams for 3 months without stop… they used to have a rate at 2-3ch/week but the last 3 months they have only released 12ch.
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Chapter 214 and 215 came out may 8 so why are you saying tha we didn’t get any chapters this month?
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the chapters were completed last month https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/2/d/1Nhu0fg7zOD6jEfm5UNU3e7tPD7Kuin2fuqpJ2BZMl3s/htmlview?pli=1
i was on a trip so i don’t know at what that they released it but if they finished it last month and it took them over a week to press “upload” then that is even worse…
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Hurry up with the translations please. It’s taking too long.
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for reals, this started of better than the LNs that charge for releases. now i dont even expect a chap from here for a month… at least thats how often i check this site anymore
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At this point, i’m just going to start reading the lower quality translations from the other site. It sucks because Bagelson translated so masterfully, but I just can’t wait.
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they have more translations at another site? granted its not on par with these releases i dont mind reading those, then rereading the better version here when it finally releases
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Are you all a bunch of 5 year Olds? If u really are so impatient go and learn how to translate DD and do it yourself. Remember bagel and piggy do this for a hobby, they have no obligation to post there chapters or follow you idiot kids’ pressure to release. Be glad they are even posting the translation for you to read…. for free I may add
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Can we not talk stupid & think b4 you piss off the Translators. No one wants you hear you bitch & moan about the chapters! NO ONE! The translators will translate when their good & ready & not b4, so do yourself & everyone else a favour & chill. Non of you folks puts in lick a of work into the translations so least you can do is chill
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Can we not post links or general info on other translations if they exist. Its a douche move to undermine the very translators whose work you all depend on for people who want their 5 minutes then will quit the project. Is it me or are people lacking proper etiquette, decorum & courtesy? Let the translators do their work without hassle & stop bitching
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With all the respect to translators who work hard to make stuff appear here is it really a sin to post here a question when will new chapters arrive/where alternative translations (even being worse quality) can be found? It is internet man, trying to silence people (especially when they aren’t aggresive here) is really silly. I am thankful to translators and almost never write nor complain here but they didn’t give a single word to people – is it hard to let people know in a short comment? Not even schedule has been updated since last realese two weeks ago as bagel usually writes when the chapter is chosen to be translated. Maybe PiggyBottle knows whats up – he didnt give a word neither.
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With all the respect to translators who do work hard to make stuff appear here is it really a sin to ask when is the next release? Or ask if there are any other sites translating this novel as well even with worse quality? This is internet man, trying to silence people just for simple questions is really silly…these are usually polite too (there are accasional trolls too but not going to mention who as that’s their goal). So stop being a “white knight” of the translators. Yes, I am thankful for all they did here but people like you take it to the extreme. A simple comment from Bagelson or PiggyBottle saying what is happening would be nice for all the readers here – is requesting a simple status update too much? Also Bagel hasn’t updated the schedule site since last release 2 weeks ago, he usually leaves a mark when a chapter has been started. He didn’t do that this time so it can make people a little worried here.
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Sorry for the double post, it didnt show the first one after submiting, so please don’t accuse me of spamming – I very rarely post here too so I hope you guys understand.
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Its not about asking questions but the way in which questions are asked. If one is to simply asked “hey Piggy or Bagel can anyone update us on when we’ll get new chaps?” Something along those lines would be respectable. However, belittling the tanslators efforts for the series by writting snippets of the next chapter or telling people theres other translations undermines their work. Making agressive statements towards the translators aint cool either cause their human man, & they probably dont like people coming at them all agressive…or am i wrong?
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calm down neckbeard. Everyone here has the upmost respect for the inscrutable bagelson. His translations really are a work of genius. He’s also created a community around that work in which people look forward to the next release and enjoy discussing it.
People like you truly undermine what he’s trying to do. I hate seeing the typical neckbeard statement, “they will translate when they translate”. Jeez man, calm the hell down. Let the community speak, stop trying to silence or think you have some sort of special position because of your views.
Yes there is one more site with much worse quality translations. The whole story is translated, They have chapters 201 to 336. If anyone wants to know just comment below.
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lnmtl.com ?
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Neckbeard…after you said that I realised who you are but you changed your name…
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im with MoeZilla, people like you should be silenced. your messing it up for all of us. its bc of your Agressive and belittling comments that piggy and bagel will stop translating. its not cool….
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It’s a free Fucking site!!! If they didn’t want anyone to just post what they want, they shouldn’t have had free comments available in the first place morons. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. Dipshits telling other people to shut up need to look in the mirror. Has it occurred to you that if they did care more for this site’s followers they would give more frequent updates? Or at least Fucking comment. people like you who tell others to shut up and wait till they translate are the retards, maybe you should go help them translate…. Oh wait they recently got 2 more translators and slowed down their releases. So you people need to STFU.
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What site
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What site?
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Who ?
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what site for the translations that are worse the bagels
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http://lnmtl.com/novel/douluo-dalu
Awful quality translation but understantable to some degree…. ofc compared to Bagels its a heaven and earth diffrence
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thanks I like bagels but its not like I pay him commission so I got to take what I can get
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Yeah, this site is really a last resort.
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Meh, all of you white knights just need to deal with it. People do what they want, just like Bagel will do what he wants. I hold him to no standard of any type. It’s a hobby for him. Cool beans. But i’ve noticed the knights of the Bagel table are even jumping all over people who do some work themselves by translating little snippets of the chapters. Isn’t this what you are telling them to do you hypocrites? I remember reading a post earlier from one of the white knights along the grounds that if they dont like the timing of releases then go translate it themselves? Dumb asses, thats what they are doing. If Bagle and who ever the other persons name is thats translating as well doesnt like hearing peoples complaints well…. theres only one thing left to do, and I think you know what that is.
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Thanks!
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I have returned. It seems the dweebs of the round-Bagel are really swinging those keyboard swords at everyone when I’m not around!
Do you think it’ll make senpai notice you? If you slobber all over yourselves and attack anyone who isn’t piling praise and cum onto the translators senpai might notice your devotion? Ha. Haha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Look, I know you white knights are all on edge because you just spotted your first pubic hair but TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE! Senpai isn’t going to let you slobber on his dick just because you swing your might keyboard sword at everyone who says something besides “I hope the chapters come out when the translators have enough space time to translate them”.
Seriously holy fuck, how can you call people a kid, when you are on the fucking internet protecting the honor of someone who doesn’t even check the comments of his own site anymore!
Go play white knights somewhere else before I get my dark wizard hat and send all you kids back to level 1.
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Go Away. you’re just here to troll….for everyone else, you will get a chapter when piggy/bagel feel like giving you one
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Hahahahahaha I understand your fear easy to invite the devil in, not so easy to get him to leave. Think I’ll stick around for a bit and enjoy the frustrated tears of you white knights.
And again, defending your translators against your imaginary dragon. If people are curious about chapters this is the best to ask questions. Just because you fucktards of the round-Bagel don’t have the balls to break from your pack of sheeple and ask a question you’re curious about, doesn’t mean everyone else is just as spineless.
Don’t make me start trolling. If you want me to troll, I will. Because I guess I am whatever you say I am. Right Mr. White knight? HahahahHHahahahhahahahahahahahahaa
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This troll again…. you must feel really good now, good job man.
PS. Nobody gives a fuck about what you said.
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Aha! You must be a sad pleeb once defeated by the greatness that is Rick!
Worry not little maggot, I will spare you further shame.
Though judging by your user name, I can tell you’re a lazy person so who knows if you’ll be able to handle further teachings.
Lastly, if I gave a flying fuck about what anybody said, or if anyone on the fucking internet have a fuck about what I just said, would I still be Rick?
NO! I wouldn’t you foolish fool, which is why I don’t give a fuck other than watching this comment section and all these white knights burn.
P.S.you cared enough to respond to my previous comment, so check. Hahaahahahaha
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Wubba Lubba Dub Dub !!
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You I like.
Tell Morty when he comes around that I said you can keep a humanoid shape when we shoot you with the Molecular Reconstructor.
You want Teddy Bear setting or FatHead wall sticker?
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what do you mean you are back? You are ” A reader has no name”
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?.. I’m not rick and I probably should not have called MoeZilla a neckbeard, but at the time of leaving that comment I was just tired of seeing all these “white knights” trying to silence people who are curious about new chapters.
Im sorry if this term offended you. But I still stick with the sentiment of that post.
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I apologize…but to be honest I don’t believe you, considering I comment saying I know who you are after saying “neckbeard”, and coincidentally Rick shows up…I would have to be a morty to not notice something fishy…
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Firstly, MY Morty would notice the smell of fish before the likes of you ever would.
And B, go back like 10 chapters, I’ve been here for a long time. Doing my best to drag all these white knights into hell. Some I’ve bested, some have simply retreated. Then I went into seclusion in an attempt to master a new dark spell, blew up a small town and boom. Back an better than ever
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… I am Rick.
Can’t you read? I even spelt my fucking name out for you.
I was the voice of dissent before a reader had no name, I am the Rickest Rick! Destroyer of pleeby little white knights and conqueror of your mom’s nasty vagina!
I AM RICK!
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I apologize… but you seem more like a morty to me…
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Where is firesion when I need him!
You want my Rick brain all over this mess of a comments section? Or do you want it to maintain SOME level of hospitality? I’m out to molecularly reconstruct the White Knights of the Round-Bagel with my new hand held reconstructor, so move aside or get turned into a fleshy human letter!
Fire, I’m adding this guy to the list of forced body shape change with the new molecular reconstructor, he gets to be the “!” at the end of the pleeb sentence.
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Molecular reconstruction is a bit more Rick like, but personally…I have the feeling to purge…
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After reading this comment I did a google search for rick and morty. Mind Blown, what an amazing show.
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You’re welcome.
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TL;DR troll trying hard to get attention
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a whole month without a chap. i really should suggest that someone at wuxiaworld should start translating this. the whole thing is basically in a abadoned state….
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I agree. Not criticizing bagel, as I realize it’s a ton of work to translate these chapters and I appreciate what he’s done, but I’d rather see him drop it so another translator will pick it up if it’s gonna continue at the pace it has been for the last 2 months or so. It will take over 2 years to catch up at this rate, and it definitely has enough popularity for a site like wuxiaworld to pick it up.
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So, probably another week until a new chapter? Or have they said they were on vacation or something?
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They didn’t say anything; the schedule site hasn’t been edited since last release and there are no marks of activity…. I hope everything is allright with Bagel and he took some vacation but who knows (not to mention it would be cool if he left a word here but Im never complaining); also there might be a possibility that someone hacked their stuff but thats just me speculating as it is a bit weird this time
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It’s only been 2 weeks, I have seen it take longer they will release it when they have it ready.
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Hey, me again.
So I’ve decided that being the great and benevolent Lord and Savior that you all see me as I would drop by again and inform the lower species that there won’t be any DD this weekend as Bagel is currently unreachable and not finished with 216.
That’s probably more words than your under-evolved brains can comprehend but I tried my best to keep the words simple and short.
Until next time you morty keyboard warriors, LICK LICK LICK MY BALLS!!
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Well, at least the comment section is nothing if not entertaining. Seems like things have gotten quite lively here since I last checked haha.
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You guys are funny! Wtf is a neckbeard? FYI no one is acting like “white nights” its just common courtesy to not undermine people who give you free service. I understand why people from different generations dislike this 1, its all about “me, me, me” & people thinking bc its the internet its ok to be ass to mouth. No one is saying to not speak your mind but you dont have to go agitate the translators to possibly drop the project. If you have a need to troll i cant stop you even when you use multiple names. BTW the translators only use the site for hosting chapters, that doesnt mean they run or own it.
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We all want more chapters but my belief in motivating the translators to keep working bc translating chapters from one language to another completely grammatically different language is beyond hard. The amount of time & dedication that is required to accomplish their work is impressive. That they do it for free without compensation & just for the love of the LN they we all enjoy. Trust me i want more chapters like everyone else but im not gonna harrass the translators to do it. Maybe i was raised different or maybe its bc im Canadian but i try to show appreciation for people who do me a solid.
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I believe your Canadian heritage and upbringing not only means you were raised differently, but are also superior than us non Canadians. Also Kudos on not harassing the translators like all the rest of us who are not part of the White Knights club.
You’re comments prove you have showed appreciation for the translators and they will look at you in a better light than everyone else.
Congratulations on winning the commenting game of this site. I’m sure Bagelson would agree with me. You can sleep well tonight, Knight Canadian MoeZilla.
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Don’t think anyone is mad at Bagelson, but I can understand that some people would rather see a more consistent translator pick the series up if he no longer has the time. Like people have said it takes a ton of time to translate a 10k+ word chapter to english, but it would be nice to know whether he’s super busy right now or if this just the speed he’s going to continue translating at in the future. The reality is that if he only has time to translate 1 chapter a week it might make more sense to get in touch with a site like WuxiaWorld and see if they want to take over so it doesn’t take 2 years to catch up to the 300+ chapters of completed chinese chapters. They have paid translators and given Douluo Dalu’s popularity I’m guessing they’d be more than happy to take over. That doesn’t mean we aren’t all very appreciative of the hundreds or thousands of hours Bagelson has no doubt put into translating up until now, but it’s hard to keep up with a series when updates are so inconsistent and spaced out.
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How hard is it to translate when there are 4 translators and a site they can literally go to right now that has it translated? The site has an extremely rough translation but seriously they can’t go there and smooth out the already translated chapters and post them here? Come on translators step it up a bit
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Maybe because it is no less work to try to rework a ‘rough’ translation as you put it, into readable english than it is to translate it from scratch? Especially because you still have to crosscheck the entire text with the original to avoid mistranslations. But if it’s so easy, you could try get a chines raw, put it through google translate and see if it’s easy to rework it into a readable text.
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It is funny how much attention others give to this pathetic roleplaying troll on a rampage. Ignoring that bs should be the best way
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100% agreed. The best way to silence the trolls is by not feeding them.
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to everyone who are courius what happen next, i’ll tell you a bit :
tang san got stronger, xiao wu ressurected, war between spirit hall and 2 great empire, bibi dong killed, spirit hall destroyed, happily ever after, hahahahahahahaha,…..
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Well… You don’t need to read the novel to know that
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Motion to disable comments henceforth
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yaaawn
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sad day, still no update?
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or teaser being released?
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Yeah no kidding, wish that Bagel or piggy or somebody would make a post (not a comment on here in the comments) letting us all know whats up.
Hope everything is okay guys! Getting me worried that no one has been able to contact Bagel for so many weeks now…
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Not gonna complain about why there isnt an update for the Translation but all I’m asking is
Is everything alright on the other end? Just take your time in doing what you are prioritizing 1st. I love reading this translation work you all have done but I hate to see your lives being affected because of it (which leads to delaying the translation).
Hope to read a post from you all soon regarding the hiccups
=)
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i think the ocean sea god is trap in tang san Vast Sea Cosmic Shroud
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“I lived on the Sea God Island for over ten years, and never have I even heard of a single land Spirit Master managing to become a member of the Sea God Island.”
So weird to said suddenly that not a single land spirit master is become a member of the island after so many “can go but can’t come out” “can become a member of the island” ……..
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